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POPPA LADY DUCHESS OF NORMANY DE SENLIS DE VALOIS DERENNES DE BAYEUX

 

In this day and age of DNA and archeological digs, the facts are all starting to change, and then they may change again sometime.  Each story has its importance and facts that may be what some are looking for.

Poppa Lady Duchess of Normany De Senlis De Valois De Rennes De Bayeux was born in 872 in Bayeux, Calvados, France.

All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy.

She married, or was taken as his wife,  Robert I Rollo “The Viking” Prince of Norway & Duke of Normandy “Count of Rouen” Ragnvaldsson in France.

According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo “stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa”[772]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed “Berengarium comitem” and married his daughter Popa, in 886[773], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple’s son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that “mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis”[774]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that “Rollo dux Northmannorum” married “Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis”[775]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that “le comte Bernard” welcomed “son neveu Richard” (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[776], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took “une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger” in the town, marrying her “à la manière des Danois”[777], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard’s mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

 

Gutland/Gotland Connection

 

The Carruthers have a major DNA connection to Gutland/Gotland.  We were part of the Goths, Geats, Guts, and many other names for the men or warriors of Gutland.  Our DNA with Gutland/Gotland goes back to the 400 AD through CTS genome dating.

Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders.

He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King’s commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. ( Another relative who is a cattle rustler )  He was sent to the Outer Herbides, Scotland.

His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo’s outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo. Rollo married 2nd Gisela, daughter of King Charles the Simple, but did not have issue by her.

“Poppa was Rollo’s first wife. They had 5 childern. Rolla than repudiated Poppa and married Gisela in 912. they had 1 daughter. After Gisela died in 919 he remarried Poppa.”

On her death he took back Poppie and they were married by the Christian ceremony.

She died in 930 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France, at the age of 58.  She is buried at the Cathedral Nortre Dame, Dane de Rouen, France.

Her husband, King Rollo died about 931. (Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 278)

( picture is Lady Poppie on the Bayeux tapestry)

They had five children during their marriage.   William “Longsword”  , Adele of Normandy, Grimaldus I Monaco Grimaldi, Gerloc of Normandy.

 

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